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robert5150   08.03.2009 (19:26)

Hello All -

I am really trying to learn german and learn it right. But its proving harder than expected.

I am not Clear on the differences between Sein* Seine* Seine* (i know there are more of the seins).

I need to know when you use those words, becuase i am not able to figure that out.

I know that they all mean "TO be or His".

Pelase Advise...

Thank You,

Robert
foreverescape   09.03.2009 (19:01)

Hi there,

You are right that they mean 'his'. The differences are all to do with grammar. Depending on the sentance in which they are used the ending of the word differs. I would try to explain it here but it is very complicated and would probably confuse you further. I'd recommend getting hold of a German grammar book or to get someone in person to talk through the grammar with you (the best way) to help make it make sense. It takes some practise and patience but you'll get there in the end.
robert5150   11.03.2009 (01:06)

Well my new solution is to try language door becuase berlitz is too expensive.

I have tried some grammar books but "all these books" just want to tell me what to say and not
the grammar behind it.

DO you know of any real grammar books that use phonic rules that whats i need!

THanks,

Robert
LKA3000   11.03.2009 (02:42)

For a good grammar book, try Neue Horizonte. http://www.amazon.com/Neue-Horizonte-7th-Book-Cdrom/dp/054705226X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1236739510&sr=8-1
It's appropriate for first level university German and it's quite thorough. I have the 3rd Ed. from 1992, but I think any edition would be sufficient.
butros   08.09.2009 (03:42)

Well, "sein" means "his. I think, if I am understanding your question correctly, you are questioning the ending of sein. If the subject of your sentence is masculine, the spelling will just be "sein". (Sein Vater arbeitet im Krankenhaus - His father works in a hospital.) Because Vater is masculine, and it is the subject of the sentence, "sein" is used. If you are using, for example, a verb that uses the dative (the case of the indirect object), then the ending for a masculine noun will be "seinem". (Der Ball gehoert seinem Vater - The ball belongs to his father). Gehoeren is a verb that takes the dative. Therefore, any masculine noun that is the object of the sentence will be changed from "der" to "dem".

On the other hand, you are correct when you point out the meaning of "sein" as the verb "to be". You may notice some grammar books make note of which verbs take "sein". Verbs that take "sein" are verbs that change location or change condition. For example, the German sentence, Ich bin ueber den Zaum gesprungen is translated as, I am over the fence jumped - I jumped over the fence. Der Dieb ist verschwunden - The thief disappeared.

Just as in English, the German verb "to be" does not have, really, anything to do with its definition. How do you go from "to be" to "I am"? How do you go from "sein" to "Ich bin"?

Does this help or confuse?

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Peter
hasanz   15.09.2009 (04:05)

Im taking German class in Uni right now, and we use : Vorsprung: A Communicative Introduction to German Language and Culture (Hardcover). And I found it really good at explaining grammer and everything else. I tried learning by my self and was difficult without learning the Grammer. This book contains it and its very well paced and intuitive.

http://www.amazon.com/Vorsprung-Communicative-Introduction-Language-Culture/dp/0618669078/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252983984&sr=8-1
utnapishtim999   22.09.2009 (01:37)

I was left rather intrigued when listening to the 1980's song 99 Luftbalons by nena at the end of the first "stanza" or whatever you call it.
she says: "Und das sowas von sowas komt"
Or something like that. Does anybody know what this means ?

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